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1 – Devin might have more knowledge and I dont want to step on his toes but I will tell you how I do it. Firstly you will never be able to 100% figure out what the tide is doing to a T. I like to look at all the available buoy data in the area and try to gain an idea of what the tide did the 2 days before. The tide is either gonna be ahead or behind whatever happened on those days. So lets look at lake lery. I will go to USGS and find buoy data for the nearest buoys. In this case it is at 4 horse lake. The tide for today is predicted to be high at 1022am and low at 1003pm. Looking at actual data you see that the low tide was at 1015pm last night and high tide peaked at about 1015am. SO the predicted is pretty close. You can see the day before to see what direction time wise the tide is moving. It is in the process of going through a cycle right now so its a little harder to use this example but still works. I will do this right before I go, and I will also look at all the buoys near it (shell beach, ms river, wherever). As a general rule of thumb tides run about an hour behind for every 10 miles you go north in the marsh. Thats a very general rule and varies greatly by the shape of the marsh.
Part 2 of this first question is very very important. Windfinder isn’t worth shit on a shingle 4-5 days out. I mean the confidence I have in it that far out is very very low, and I will watch that forecast up until the last minute because it can change the tide, and how everything you do is done. Wind strength and direction are everything.
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I measured 65 from hopedale marina to middle of the islands using google maps (give or take a few miles for accuracy.) Measured 40 from the marina by the silver slipper in waveland. 35 miles from the public launch in bay st louis. Thats all kinda towards the middle of the island to get a baseline.
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Hey Jeff, I am no expert on those islands, as I have never been, but I have ran from hopedale marina way way out into the biloxi marsh both east and south. With that being said it is a very very long run from hopedale to the islands. It would likely be easier, and shorter to launch from slidell, waveland ms, la france, bay st louis and go south. Just a thought. I havent mapped it but I am assuming it would be way shorter of a boat ride.
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I think that its worth the risk personally but you have to be situationally aware. I like to reference the weather.gov page for forecast to read between the lines of TV forecasting. Looks like the current potential is for about 30%. In other words diurnally driven storms, but if you look at the marine forecast discussion you will see that whatever does form is going to be strong. Personally I would leave out super early and try to start thinking about running back in around noon or 1pm.
****I WOULD WATCH THESE FORECAST DISCUSSIONS LIKE A HAWK UP TO THE LAST UPDATE. NOAA UPDATES THERE FORECAST DISCUSSION IN THE MID AFTERNOON AND MID MORNING (4pm and 4am ish).
I am including a screenshot of the hourly forecast from noaa. Also including a copy paste of the current forecast discussion.
The nose of the OH Valley ridge will nudge back into the area to end the week allowing temperatures to rebound some and afternoon PoPs to lower back toward climatology (20-50%) on Thursday and Friday. The main concern if skies remain clear enough would be heat indices approaching 108 degrees which would elevated the risk for heat- related illnesses. By Saturday, the ridge will begin to weaken and move eastward allowing a weakness in mid-level flow and lowering of heights over the area. This could locally enhance afternoon PoPs once more over the weekend with more scattered to numerous storms on Sunday especially as a reinforcing weak shortwave moves down across the lower Mississippi Valley. Looking ahead, the longwave pattern within the global ensemble guidance continues to suggest the potential for a larger mid-upper ridge setting up over the west-central CONUS and favoring troughing and west-northwest flow aloft across the southeastern CONUS headed into next week which could bring temperatures down and potentially bring more convective activity into the area by midweek next week.
.MARINE... Issued at 1151 PM CDT Mon Jun 29 2026 Aside from a weak easterly wave moving through the northern Gulf overnight tonight, the pattern will be dominated by high pressure influences. Winds will generally be 10kts or less and direction will vary through midweek, becoming more predominantly southerly as high pressure builds over the eastern Gulf late in the week. Generally isolated to scattered showers and storms can be expected each day, with potential for more numerous/widespread convection on Wednesday associated with the easterly wave. A few stronger storms could produce gusty winds and/or waterspouts, and locally hazardous seas during the second half of the work week.
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Are you in a kayak? I can give you lots of good tips on venice and YCB. What area in port sulphur were you in? I dont recognize the spot your talking about?
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This gets me fired up.
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Damn epic. Gosh that flounder makes my mouf water.
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Similar to my kayak trip in hermitage. Water was fairly clean by standards of over there. But not super clean in general. Some of the grassy back ponds were fairly clean but reds werent forthcoming. I was alternating throwing underspin with gulp and megamatrix on weedless screw lock. Caught reds on both but it was tough finding them.
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Well I am doing my USGS buoy data survery this morning just to see whats up and down. Salinities in barataria bay have dropped significantly. The buoy at empire and north of grand bayou village are reporting around salinities around 10-12ppt. They were closer to 20-25 before the storm. The ground water runoff has made a major impact on the salinities of the bay, and those have not been overwhelmed by the south wind and higher tide levels.
The good news is the tides are still averaging about 2ft above marsh level, so I should be able to go way way way up into the skinniest of spots with no issue in the kayak even on low tide. I could have easily taken my boat back into the same areas this time around if I would have chosen that route.
I also took a peak at turbidity which is super important to know, especially in super shallow barataria bay. It was way up 2 days ago with all the wind and rain, but it has come back down so It is possible that the water is cleaning up quickly. We will see when I get down there. Water temps are topping out around 86f, which is getting on up there. Reds will definitely be dipping off into deeper areas in the heat of the day. The temps early in the morning are still gonna be in the upper 70s so the reds should be feeding hard till 10-11 id think.
I am gonna hit the water for first light. I dont mind waking up early, in fact I like it. No traffic, coffee, jams, or rick steves on NPR. I will likely get my fill by noon or so and be back home early afternoon to sit in the a/c.
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I find the noaa maps arent as detailed. I always do a ton of buoy checking leading up to the trip. I check all the buoys in the region and that kinda gives you an idea of what its going to be salt wise. Most of the USGS buoys atleast have salinity data.
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Im not fluent in meteorology. Well I wasn’t. I made it a habit of reading the forecast discussion every day about 10 or 15 years ago. At first I was confused and I would have to look up the terms they used, but after you read them for a few weeks and compare to whats actually happening with the weather then you start to see how they do it and what it all means for the big picture. Its free information. Also every TV forecaster on the planet is pulling their information from noaa, so you are going right to the root of the source.
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Thanks yall! Yeah I mean I get miles and miles of smiles out sight fishing for reds. I really do love it and I dont really know why anyone wouldnt want too. Upper slots are maybe one of the funnest fish I have ever hooked into in my life.
I usually run weedless setup. My favorite is a screwlock hook with an underspin with a plastic or gulp curly tail on it. I have that rigged up on 2 of my setups. On the other one I have a regular screwlock 2/0 1/8th ounce owner with a mega matrix. Both setups glide through the salad and drive the reds absolutely bonkers.
Now hear me out. I have seen this before and it might be the case again this weekend. All this tropical weather pushes a giant slug of saltwater up into barataria bay and sometimes the trout come back in with it.. If I bump into some I might play with em.
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I posted a report in the reports section. Wasnt a stellar weekend of fishing but I did catch and I did have a great time and I covered a lot of water.
I will agree with you. So I have a boat and kayak. I think it is more trouble to launch the kayak than the boat. The main reason being is I put my coolers, rods, tackle, everything in my boat and just back it in the water. On the kayak I have to carry all that shit in the truck then unload it onto the kayak. I have a very good system now but it still probably takes me longer to load and unload the kayak than the boat. Fishing from a kayak is a different experience though. There is something about it that makes it unique. The closeness to the environment, the quiet, the physical limitations of distance. I don’t think I could ever choose one over the other.
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You should throw it up on facebook marketplace. Someone would probably buy it for the right price. Sounds like a decent setup you should use it!
