McLovin
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I don’t feel like Yellow Cotton will be your best bet tomorrow, but I haven’t fished there recently so take that with a grain of salt. Devin posted a report last year around this time, he found trout in the river by Bay Denesse. That may be a doable option for you since you could launch at Fort Jackson (I’d launch directly in the river and not at the old launch), the wind and ship traffic would sketch me out in a kayak, but it’s only a half mile crossing to fish the east side since that should be better with the wind.
I don’t know, I feel like you will have less wind at Hopedale but also less cover to hide from the wind. Venice gives you more cover for hiding from the wind, but the wind is predicted to be blowing harder. Worst case, if the trout aren’t biting then you could go into ponds for redfish or even flip into canes for bass.
That would be my advice, but if you aren’t comfortable with the river, don’t do it. I don’t know how often you are out on the water, but big ships can’t stop quickly so unless you have good confidence in your abilities, it’s easy to get in trouble.
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I haven’t listened to either podcast yet, but I was reading through the comments on Lake Pickle’s Instagram post. There is one advocate from the industry in there talking about the studies and makes some decent points. Although anytime someone says, “there is no shortage of X,” I am always thinking of how they said that with bears, deer, turkeys, quail, ducks, basically anything here in the 1800s.
His main points are:
- 90% of bycatch is released
- Shrimp boats damage the ocean floor and are more impactful
- Pogy boats catch <1% of the pogy stock
I’ve been diving into this article here: A Gulf Menhaden Deep Dive – American Saltwater Guides Association
My main thoughts are:
- The average redfish caught in the nets is 37.5 inches long.
- 26752 reds are released via “rollover” at 16% mortality; 17841 reds are released via “chute” at 98% mortality. Total redfish killed is 30,118: 4280 rollover; 17484 chute; 8354 killed as keep.
- 750,000 redfish are killed via recreational anglers but are not sexually mature and not contributing to the breeding population.
- It’s hard to get off my mind that we as recreational anglers fought hard to have the limit reduced further to 3 fish vs the current 4 but our elected officials decided against it.
I still think our fishery decline is multi-faceted; it just sucks that we make a step in the right direction and one year later that decision is in jeopardy.
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The rain may be spotty so I think you could potentially avoid it. But I agree, the waves are 3-4 feet Saturday and 2-3 foot Sunday in the lake. Bienvenue is an option, you could launch at seabrook and ride out that way, I suspect the bienvenue and Dupre gates will be closed with the east winds.
Have you actually seen Bonnabel crowded? Lol I have never seen more than 2 of the 4 ramps being used. I know they were building the pier at west end, not sure if they finished or not though. But I would not be want to launch at either of them with the wave forecast.
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Was there a googan in a yellow boat fishing the Jump when you stopped on the way in?
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I should have gone, I was short on vacation days but I’ll be at the next one. Man this one hurts.
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Some quick math:
- 20,000 Bull redfish killed by pogy boats
- 20,000,000 eggs per spawning season (actual estimate is 20-40 million eggs)
- 50% of the redfish being female
- That’s 200,000,000,000 eggs laid
- Assume 0.1% of the eggs hatch (again I’m probably being conservative here, most estimates are just <1%)
- 200,000,000 redfish fry hatched
- Assume 1% of these fry survive to slot size (again I feel like I’m being conservative)
- That’s 2 million slot redfish that are not there JUST from pogy boat operation.
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Need to get Joe Bergeron elected to governor.
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LDWF does not give AF
I don’t think the organization as a whole doesn’t. I think a lot of the organization (biologists and LEOs) puts a lot of their soul into protecting our resources. I do think that there are members of the commission who would see everything go up in smoke and be ok with it. As long as it padded their pockets.
I don’t know what the answer is. You have to think why they hell aren’t CCA, TRCP, or any other conservation organization worth a damn fighting the hell out of them with civil suits using this data? These organizations have the money to hit these guys in the face, but it seems like they tip toe around.
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Yeah for sure, I was in a yellow boat. I fished the rocks and wing dams that split south/southwest pass, on the southwest pass side. I’ve never fished head of passes before but that side is deep, 30-35 feet 10-15 yards from the pilings and it was hard to get to bottom even with a 1 ounce drop shot. I fish the spillways like I would for mountain stream trout, think eddies and current breaks. I fished river side this trip, but fished both river and marsh sides last time. I would fish the slower moving black arrows and avoid the faster moving red arrows in the picture attached.
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Ha I’m trying not to get my own hopes up, I’ll believe it when he says all the models agree. But I’ve become a huge weather nerd when I’m planning my fishing trips and found the forecast discussion is so much better than looking at numbers as a percentage.
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It looks like there is potential for that to happen mid-next week. From the NWS forecast discussion:
“As the weekend system clears eyes will center on the next much stronger front upstream. There are timing disparities between the GFS and ECMWF, however, the broad scale trough looks to sharpen as it moves east of the Rockies early next week. Another round of rainfall and again much cooler, drier air should filter into the region”
Wunderground shows low temps dropping to 55-56, winds from the NNW at 10-20 mph Wednesday and Thursday.
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Someone will hopefully correct me if I am wrong but the first and second spillways are on southwest pass. The four spillways with the rocks are above head of passes.
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I was calling the mouth where it dumps out into the gulf. Around these rocks
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Yeah that was me, I can assure you that I harmed no trout yesterday though lol.
