Devin
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Okay, so off the top of my head looking at your map…
1. There are submerged rocks in the MRGO as you enter that bayou. They are painstakingly marked with white poles, and you can see the in historical imagery on GED. I’m assuming you saw where I used those as an example in IF101?
2. There are some pilings at the mouth of Doulut’s as you enter Lake Borgne. You can see them on historical imagery. Definitely don’t want to hit those at speed. I have hit them idling.
3. This dead end canal can be good for redfish, as well as the pond on its east side. Chunk and wind a Texas rigged craw, gold spoon or wake bait. A 1/4oz jighead works well here, too. Fish the canal all the way to the end then fish your way back into that pond.
4. Lots of kayakers like to fish here, so maybe don’t blast through there on plane. Take the next bayou down to get into Pisana, but be aware you will have the occasional Chris Columbus in a kayak down there, too. lol Just be mindful.
5. That’s the Rock Dam, just in case you didn’t now. That can be a good spot to catch specks, reds, sheeps and puppy drum. It will probably be a grind and will probably have boats there.
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I think using treble hooks is fine, but would use single hooks when the scenario calls for it, and that scenario would be fishing over the top of thick enough milfoil where treble hooks would get caught on the grass. I’ve had this happen before, where the only way to get a presentation on the speckled trout loitering in the grass was to throw a topwater at them. Everything else sank into the grass and snagged. It doesn’t rip free like hydrilla does.
If the water was any lower (and sometimes it was) I would throw a topwater with single hooks. It works because it is the only thing that works.
But if any person is bored and just wants to play with tackle, then there’s really no point in switching to single hooks for the sake of it (unless you really just enjoy swapping hooks).
If single hooks were better, bass anglers would’ve figured that out decades ago and ship all topwaters with single hooks.
But they don’t.
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It’s looking like there’s gonna be some wind during your trip. That pretty much scratches off Bay Eloi. This is not like a lake such as Eufala, where there are hills and trees to block or slow down the wind. It is wide open and anything over 5-10mph will make it bumpy.
Same for Lake Borgne.
I’ve looked at your routes and identified some discrepancies. Later when I get to a stopping point in my work I will highlight those for you and give corrections.
As for your fishing spots, let me think that over and I can give some advice. Your plan isn’t bad, I just want to make sure we are on the same sheet of music.
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Nate, first of all, thank you so much for taking our advice and coming back to follow up on this. I really appreciate that. That tells me you’re serious and willing to apply yourself. That’s rare.
“but fishing southern LA without a guide”
You do not need one. Honestly, it’s gonna be like fishing anywhere else: do your homework, take it slow and you’ll be fine.
Are you a legit bass angler? I see the rods you listed. Do you flip, deep crank, power fish, all that? Or do you guys only crappie fish? Who am I talking to here? lol
“I think Livescope in perspective view could be valuable”
All your sonar will be. It will be like bass/crappie fishing, if you see bait balls you are close. If you fish an area (especially if its deep, like 12-20ft+) and you don’t see any bait balls and it looks like a ghost town, then it’s a ghost town.
Also, Livescope will probably the murder the daylights out of sheepshead on rocks and pilings.
“We are geared from light action 6’10” Falcon rods to 7′ MH & Heavy rods with 20# braid and 25# fluorocarbon leaders.”
That will work.
” I don’t think the question here will be if we have something they will eat but rather choosing and presenting the right option.”
I agree 100%. But let’s be warm and fuzzy on that tackle. What brands specifically are you bringing? A picture would suffice. They just need to look like what’s in this guide.
“My Humminbird at the console does have a map of the area”
What Humminbird and what kind of map? Is it he Lakemaster Louisiana Delta map? Or the base map?
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Did you guys get Chas Champagne yet?
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Excellent post. Love this.
Yeah, this (in my opinion) goes back to taking a holistic approach to your health: consider what you put into your body, when you do that and get some frikkin’ exercise. I run, bike, go to the gym, cold plunge, sauna, etc. all so I can remain active and do what I like.
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Likewise!
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I think both plans are feasible. Plan #1 is your best shot at catching speckled trout then going Plan Redfish.
As for Plan #2: you will be semi-protected by the Short Rocks, but that wind is gonna be brutal. It’d be better if it were coming from the other way. Otherwise it will be blowing your boat into the rocks. That’s a tough game to play if you’re not 100% confident your trolling motor.
You could smash the fish there. It’s possible. But, like you said, it would be one of a few spots you could try out there.
I like Plan #1 better. You can drift Lake John, hit the SE corner of Four Horse, drift Pointe Fienne, Bay Skippy and even the north shoreline of Wreck Bay.
If I were you, I would pick out at least a dozen spots, make safe routes through all of them then fish them all. I would also consider the north shores of Lake Lery and Grand Lake, soaking dead shrimp under a cork for redfish as a very last, desperate resort to put fish in the boat.
Good luck.
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I’ve always thought the bean bag chair would be a good idea. Just another reason why I need a 24′ bay boat with an open deck lol
I’m guessing the Lake Borgne rigs ought to turn on this year. Have you heard any good reports out of there?
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Excellent reporting. Absolute top notch.
Yeah, I do think that if you want to catch a bunch of fish, you’re going to have to punch into Lake Borgne to fish the rigs/reefs there (when the wind allows) or get down to the bleeding edge of river water in Pointe a la Hache, and fish Delacroix along the way.
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That book is amazing. I’ve read it and keep a copy in my personal library. Anybody who hasn’t read it does not know Louisiana inshore fishing until they have.
If that book doesn’t make you want to start putting fish back in the water, then I don’t know what does. Rudy Grigar’s book is amazing for many reasons, but a good one is that it shows how far Louisiana’s fishing has declined.
It is hopelessly tragic what has happened.
So, in Grigar’s case, he had an exponentially higher amount of fish to catch. The guy could have used a single barbless J-hook completely straightened out off the back of a topwater and he still would have caught the hell out of fish.
The Louisiana back then may as well be another planet from a science fiction novel. lol
If Grigar was alive today – and could be talked out of jumping off the Crescent City Connection after seeing what’s left (or starting an eco-terror cell to put it back) – he would probably use treble hooks after a few days of getting his ass kicked by the few pressured fish that are left.
lol I joke…
…sort of.
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Just check out the fishing reports, like this one from when the river was low and this one from when the river was rising.
Have you seen reports like that out of Bayou St. Malo? Nope.
Are you going to? Nope.
We didn’t last year, the year before that, etc.
That dog don’t hunt.
That and fish have the option to spawn/overwinter where they want to. They’re not obligated to go back to some barren, foodless hell-hole. Today there are fewer fish than there’s historically been and far more water for them to be in.
Go where the fish are and you will have far better days. The difference is that here inside LAFB Elite you have all the tools to do that. Tools and resources you won’t find on Facebook or anywhere else. The only thing holding you back is you.
We are here to help. I’d definitely read back through those past reports to figure out where you want to go and what to do.
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Not a dumb question at all. It’s a great question.
The reason the bleeding edge of river water is so good is that it’s a better environment for the entire food chain to grow. Because there’s more food, there will be more fish there (speckled trout, especially slot/bull reds, bass, everything).
More aquatic grass can grow, offering cover to bait.
Above all, the river water offers organic material for the food chain to grow from the bottom up. Plankton need that live, grow and multiply. If there is more plankton, there is more for menhaden to eat. If there’s more menhaden to eat, then there’s more fish.
This is the theory that’s been backed up by phenomenal fishing trips to the river and the marsh she influences. This is why you will see Shell Beach guides in Delacroix but never the other way around.
Furthermore, most Louisiana inshore anglers mistakenly believe that river water is poison, so they don’t fish it. Good. More fish for me and anyone else who wants to know better.
On top of that, areas affected by river water are far more difficult to navigate, further scaring away casual anglers. Good. More fish for me and anyone else who can read a map.
The pogey boats spend the majority of their time in….wait for it…drum roll….building suspense….RIVER WATER (or areas influenced by it). Because that’s where all the pogies are.
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I just checked out their website, doesn’t appear so anymore. Dang.
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Lane bought Cajun Lures? Zach Dubois doesn’t own it anymore?
